Bying Guide
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This section looks at second hand GTi's and what to look for when making that all important decision. Which could turn out quite costly if you don't take the time to look at the car in great detail.

Three important tips before purchasing a car:
- If you have any doubts. Leave it! Look further, there are plenty good ones out there.
- Check the history of the car. No damage? Proparly maintaned?
- If you want to be sure, let a Peugeot dealer check it out before you buy the car.

But here's the disclaimer: If after reading this guide, you fail to buy a good Peugeot, then that's your look out.

Bying Guide Peugeot 106
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106 GTi Buyers Guide
(and other sporty 106 types
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source: Peugeot GTi Autosport Club UK

GTi OIL LEAKS
 
Look for signs of an oil leak from the top~end coming from the camshaft oil seals, if it has been wiped off look directly below to see signs that a leak has occurred.
 
OIL LEAKS IN GENERAL
 
Phase One suffered terribly. Oil at either end of the engine probably means one or both of the crankshaft oil seals has gone which means (loads of work to get replaced and costly too).If your prepared to get your hands dirty take along a couple of spanners and take off the cambelt covers and look for signs of oil at the front left corner of the join between the head and the engine block. If you should come across oil then the likely hood is that one of the main oil ways has failed on the head gasket.
 
CAMBELTS
 
Not very many GTi's have done loads of mileage, If your looking at a Phase one then check that it has been changed as they require changing at 36,000 or 48,000,depending on the model and the year. As the Phase two cars do not need replacing until 72,000. If you're seen no sign of the cam belt been changed and logged in the service book then tread carefully. This could mean that the car has not been mechanically looked after.
 
GEAR SHAFT
 
Sloppy gearchanging is a common 106 fault. The 106 shift rods weren't that great from the start and get worse a time goes by. But to replace the rods are not expensive and their easy to change.The cost of a new set of rods should be somewhere between £15~£20 depending on the year.If you are going to change them then think about changing them for a quickshift set up will reduce gear movement by 30%, and costing about £99.00.
 
CLUTCH
 
If the clutch judders,then it could mean that oil has leaked internally from the crankshaft oil seal onto the clutch plate. A new clutch kit should sort out the problem.
 
CV JOINTS
 
When test driving the car listen out for clicks and knocks from the driveshafts. To do this drive the car on both left and right lock at a slow speeds. If you hear noises then the likely hood is their knackered.
 
FRONT SUSPENSION
 
The suspension on the 106 is quite sound, but one fault they can suffer from is vague steering.Which is caused by the rack mounting bolts coming lose.(Mainly models with powersteering).
 
REAR SUSPENSION
 
The 106 uses  a radius arm set which pivots up and down to provide rear suspension.The trouble spot to look at on the 106 is the bearing at the end mounted to the chassis. Things to look out for are negative camber on the rear wheels, and signs of tyres rubbing on the body work.
 
BRAKES
 
Peugeot have come up trumps with the 106 brakes as up front you get 254mm vented discs. On the rear you get 254mm solid disc, the trouble spots to look out for are. Check that the ABS light goes out 2 seconds after the engine has started,if it stays on then their could well be a fault with the ABS system which parts are usually expensive. Secondly look closely at the discs for deep ridges and grooves especially the front.
 
BODY WORK
 
Check all panels for alignment carefully. The 106 body panels should have nice even gaps. If not then this could mean that the car could have been involved in a small knock or the worst a crash. Look for creases in the boot floor inner wings front and rear, and check trims are fitting incorrectly.
 
ALLOY'S
 
Look closely at the front alloys for damage. One of the main causes for damaged wheels are that they have been kerbed. Peugeot alloys are not cheap to buy so if your not planning any wheel upgrades the look at the wheels closely as they can be quite expensive.

Bying Guide Peugeot 205
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205 GTi Buyers Guide (1)
(and other sporty 205 types
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Source: Autolink

Introduction

The Peugeot 205 was introduced to the UK in October 1983 as a replacement for the 104. It was an instant success and was acclaimed for it's modern styling, comfort, handling and practicality. It was initially available with 4 engine options, including Peugeot's excellent 1769cc diesel, and in 3 or 5 door hatchback form. It wasn't long before a sporty GTi model came onto the scene, and a couple of years on, a cabriolet arrived to complete the range.

The 205 was discontinued in 1997, and has not yet been replaced as it falls in between the smaller 106 and the larger 306 models in the Peugeot range.  This is one reason why the value of decent used 205's remain strong.

Specifications

954cc Petrol

  • 1983 to 1991.
  • 45bhp
  • 4sp gearbox, Front Wheel Drive.
  • 85 mph, 19 secs 0-60.
  • 40-48mpg.
  • GE or Junior in 5dr form.
  • XE, XL or Junior in 3dr form.

1124cc Petrol

  • 1983 to 1996.
  • 55bhp (carb) or 60bhp (injection).
  • 4sp gearbox (5sp from late 1989), Front Wheel Drive.
  • 89 mph, 17 secs 0-60.
  • 45-54mpg.
  • GL or GR in 5dr form.
  • XL or XR in 3dr form.
  • Many special editions including: Style, Look, Trio (3dr only of course), Junior, Zest & Mardi Gras.

1360cc Petrol

  • 1983 to 1994.
  • 60 to 85bhp depending on spec.
  • 5sp gearbox, Front Wheel Drive.
  • 95mph, 15secs 0-60, 42-48mpg (GR).
  • 105mph, 11.5secs 0-60, 35-42mpg (GT, XS).
  • GR, SR or GT in 5dr form.
  • XL, XR, XS or XT in 3dr form.
  • CJ in Cabriolet form.
  • Many special editions including: Sceptre, GTX, Roland Garros and the frenzied Rallye.

1580cc Petrol

  • 1984 to 1997.
  • 80bhp (carb), 89bhp (inj), GTi/CTi has 105bhp (to late 1987), 115bhp (late 1987 on).
  • 5sp manual or 4sp automatic gearbox, Front Wheel Drive.
  • 120 mph, 9.0secs 0-60 (GTi).
  • 100 mph, 14secs 0-60 (Auto).
  • 33-40mpg.
  • "Auto" in 5dr form.
  • XL Auto or GTi in 3dr form.
  • CTi in Cabriolet form.
  • Special editions include: Mardi Gras Auto and Junior Auto.

1769cc Diesel

  • 1983 to 1997.
  • 60bhp or 78bhp (turbo).
  • 5sp gearbox, Front Wheel Drive.
  • 95mph, 15.0secs 0-60, (100mph, 13.0secs 0-60 for the turbo).
  • 45-60mpg.
  • GLD, GRD, GRDT or Turbo D in 5dr form.
  • XLD, STDT or Turbo D in 3dr form.
  • Many special editions including: Style, Sceptre, Mardi Gras, Zest, Inca & Aztec.

1905cc Petrol

  • 1987 to 1994.
  • 105bhp (CTi), 130bhp (GTi), 122bhp (GTi with cat.).
  • 5sp manual, Front Wheel Drive.
  • 127mph, 7.5secs 0-60 (GTi).
  • 29-37mpg.
  • GTi in 3dr form.
  • CTi in Cabriolet form.
  • GTi has disc brakes all round

Things to look out for

  • Bodywork:

Rusty 205's are a rare sight, even the A & B reg examples are usually pretty rust free, although it's worth checking the rear hatch for signs of rust around the rear screen.  Check carefully for signs of accident damage, particularly on the (often enthusiastically driven) GTi's.  Also on GTi's, look out for signs of it having been stolen/recovered - One key should work the doors, hatch and ignition.

  • Engine:

Petrol models tend to get a bit smoky with age, but there are no real problems otherwise. Cambelts need replacing at 48,000m intervals. Look out for signs of head gasket problems on 1.9 models. With 5,000m oil changes and 50,000m cambelt changes, the diesels will go on for ever.

  • Gearbox/clutch:

Clutch cables can get stiff, making for a heavy clutch action, and the gear linkage (made of bits of coathanger and little ball joints) will not take too much heavy use. Clutches on diesels should last 150,000m.

  • Brakes:

No problems apart from the handbrake on the 1.9 GTi (rear disks) which won't work.  Check the brake pipes for corrosion, and ensure that they are replaced with copper (which doesn't rust) if required - it's well worth the slight extra cost.

  • Steering & Suspension

Check for perished driveshaft gaiters, and play in the steering rack.

  • Electrics:

Distributor wear on the GTi's, particularly the 1.9 can lead to a lumpy (or should that be lumpier?) idle or even stalling and cold starting can be a problem.

  • Cooling System:

Check that the thermostatic fan comes on when the temperature goes up, and that the heater works efficiently.

  • Wheels & Tyres

The spare wheel lives underneath the boot floor, and is an easy target for theives, so check that it is still there. The 1.9 Alloys are easily kerbed, particularly if the wrong tyres are fitted (the right ones have a protruding ridge on the sidewall which is designed to hit the kerb before the wheel does).

Prices

In general, 205's hold their value well, even the GTi's which suffered massive depreciation in the late 80's/early 90's are now holding their prices well. Expect to pay £1,300 for a 1989 5dr 1.1 with 75k, £1,500 for a 1.4 and £1,800 for a diesel. If you can find a decent, undamaged 1.9GTi with history for much under £3,000 then buy it.

Further Information

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205 GTi Buyers Guide (2)
(and other sporty 205 types
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Source: www.205gti.com

Things to look out for

  • Bodywork:

Rusty 205's are a rare sight, even the A & B reg examples are usually pretty rust free, although it's worth checking the rear hatch for signs of rust around the rear screen.  Check carefully for signs of accident damage, particularly on the (often enthusiastically driven) GTi's.  Also on GTi's, look out for signs of it having been stolen/recovered - One key should work the doors, hatch and ignition.

  • Engine:

Petrol models tend to get a bit smoky with age, but there are no real problems otherwise. Cambelts need replacing at 48,000m intervals. Look out for signs of head gasket problems on 1.9 models.

 

  • Gearbox/clutch:

Clutch cables can get stiff, making for a heavy clutch action, and the gear linkage (made of bits of coathanger and little ball joints) will not take too much heavy use. Make sure the second gear is shitfing smoothly, but still feels quite tight.

  • Brakes:

No problems apart from the handbrake on the 1.9 GTi (rear disks) which won't work.  Check the brake pipes for corrosion, and ensure that they are replaced with copper (which doesn't rust) if required - it's well worth the slight extra cost.

Is the main brake cylinder dry? It may show a little leakage but not too much.
  • Steering & Suspension

Check for perished driveshaft gaiters, and play in the steering rack.

Check the stabilisers. They have been revised by Peugeot 2 (two) times but they still wear fast.
  • Electrics:

Distributor wear on the GTi, particularly the 1.9 can lead to a lumpy (or should that be lumpier?) idle or even stalling and cold starting can be a problem. Make sure all electric things are working. Peugeot is very (and I mean VERY) expensive when it comes to swithes and other electronics.

  • Cooling System:

Check that the thermostatic fan comes on when the temperature goes up, and that the heater works efficiently.

  • Wheels & Tyres

The spare wheel lives underneath the boot floor, and is an easy target for theives, so check that it is still there. The 1.9 Alloys are easily kerbed, particularly if the wrong tyres are fitted (the right ones have a protruding ridge on the sidewall which is designed to hit the kerb before the wheel does).

Bying Guide Peugeot 309
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309 GTi Buyers Guide
(and other sporty 309 types
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Source: http://www.autolinkuk.co.uk/pt39bg.htm

Introduction

The Peugeot 309 was introduced to the UK in February 1986 as a replacement for the 305. It was mostly built at Peugeot's Ryton plant in Coventry, partly in the hope of making inroads into the British fleet car market. The styling was not to everyone's taste, and build quality was a bit flimsy, but the 309 was mechanically sound and a practical car to own, making it reasonably popular with private buyers. The 309's most outstanding feature was it's handling balance, which put it head and shoulders above the other cars in it's class at the time.

If you want to know if your car is a French or British built car, the easy way to check is by the first 3 characters of the chassis number.  Ryton built cars start SDB, and French cars start VF3.

It was initially available with 3 petrol engine options, and in 3 or 5 door hatchback form. A diesel version, using Peugeot's excellent 1.9 engine was added to the range in September 1986. The line up was completed in April 1987, with the launch of the 1.9 GTI version which had the performance to match it's acclaimed handling. A 160bhp 16v GTI was available in France, using the same engine as the Citroen BX 16 valve, but, sadly, it wasn't imported to the UK.


Specifications

1118cc Petrol

  • 1986 to 1989
  • 54bhp
  • 4sp gearbox, Front Wheel Drive
  • 90 mph, 18 secs 0-60
  • 37-45 mpg
  • GE in 5dr form
  • XE in 3dr form

1124cc Petrol

  • 1991 to 1992
  • 60bhp
  • 5sp gearbox, Front Wheel Drive
  • 90 mph, 17 secs 0-60
  • 37-45 mpg
  • Only available as a "Style" in either 3dr or 5dr form.

1294cc Petrol

  • 1986 to 1991
  • 65bhp
  • 5sp gearbox, Front Wheel Drive
  • 95 mph, 15 secs 0-60
  • 38-46 mpg
  • XE, XL or Style in 3dr form
  • GE, GL, GLX, GR or Style in 5dr form

1360cc Petrol

  • 1991 to 1993
  • 75bhp
  • 5sp gearbox, Front Wheel Drive
  • 100 mph, 14 secs 0-60
  • 38-45 mpg
  • Style or Zest models in 3dr form
  • GL, GLX, Style or Zest models in 5dr form
  • Fuel injection versions available (all with catalysts)

1580cc Petrol

  • 1986 to 1993
  • 79bhp (up to Aug 88), 80bhp (Aug 88 on), 115bhp (XSi, SRi & GRi)
  • 5sp manual or 4sp automatic gearbox, Front Wheel Drive
  • 120 mph, 9.5 secs 0-60 (XSi)
  • 105 mph, 12.5 secs 0-60 (carb models)
  • 35-40 mpg
  • XL Auto or XSi in 3dr form
  • GL, GLX, GR, SR, SRi and GRi in 5dr form

1905cc Petrol

  • 1987 to 1992
  • 130bhp, or 122bhp with catalyst.
  • 5sp manual, Front Wheel Drive.
  • 125 mph, 8.0secs 0-60
  • 30-38mpg
  • GTi model only, in 3dr or 5dr form
  • Goodwood GTi special edition available from 1991, with metallic green paint, leather, CD autochanger, remote opening rear quarter lights and option of wood steering wheel and gear knob (much sought after).

1769cc Turbo Diesel

  • 1989 to 1993
  • 78bhp
  • 5sp gearbox, Front Wheel Drive
  • 105 mph, 13 secs 0-60
  • 44-53 mpg
  • GRDT, GLDT or GLXDT in 5dr form only

1905cc Diesel

  • 1987 to 1993
  • 64bhp
  • 5sp gearbox, Front Wheel Drive
  • 100 mph, 15 secs 0-60
  • 45-55 mpg
  • XLD in 3dr form
  • GLD, GRD, Style or Trio in 5dr form only


Things to look out for

Bodywork:

Far be it from me to suggest that the British build had anything to do with it (and I have it on good authority that the French built 309's were even worse), but 309's seem to me to attract rust more than, for instance, 205's, so check areas like the sills, wheelarches, front subframe mounting points, the lip of the boot and the boot floor for rust.  Check for signs of leakage into the boot, most were caused by faulty seals around the tail lights.  Peugeot did manufacture a kit to rectify this, but they obviously assume all the affected cars were either cured or have rotted away, as the kit is no longer available as far as we know.  Water that leaks into the boot runs forward and sits in the wells beneath the rear seats, which become soggy as a result.   Badly stained rear seats can be a good indicator of a leak.

Check carefully for signs of accident damage, particularly on GTi's. Also on GTi's, look out for signs of it having been stolen/recovered - One key should work the doors, hatch and ignition.

The rear window plays a significant part in maintaining the structural rigidity of the car, and can occasionally break, so have a good look for signs of cracking.  Check that the rear hatch is aligned correctly, if not it can gradually wear the paint off one the rear wings as it rubs against it.  Also on the subject of the rear hatch, check that the heating element connector is sound and intact, they frequently get yanked off and then bodged back together.  If it's been glued, chances are it won't work, but if it's been soldered, you may well find that the glass goes bang fairly soon (if it hasn't already during the soldering).

It may be useful to know that we think that 205 and 309 doors are interchangeable if you are looking for a scrapyard replacement for a bashed item.

Engine:

Petrol models tend to get a bit smoky and noisy with age and the 1.9 engine went through a period during which sub-standard valve seals were fitted (between 1989 and 1991). Affected engines can suffer from excessive oil consumption in later life , but there are no real problems otherwise. Cambelts on petrol engines need replacing at 48,000m intervals. With 5,000m oil changes and 50,000m cambelt changes, the diesels will go on for ever.  The 1.3 was the old Horizon engine, famed for its rattly tappets - they will simply need adjusting, so should not be a worry (and you could talk the price down too...).

Gearbox/clutch:

As with the 205, the gear linkage (made of bits of coathanger and little ball joints) will not take too much heavy use. Early gearboxes are fragile, and very early (early 86 only) gearboxes need to use multigrade engine oil, not gear oil, or they quickly get ruined - this is a common mistake made by garages.  Clutches on diesels should last 150,000m.

Steering & Suspension:

Clunks and rattles from the rear end when going over bumps and potholes usually mean that the damper bushes or the rear subframe mountings are worn, replacement of the rear subframe mounts is not a cheap job and will not leave much change out of £400 at a dealer.  Noises from the front suspension are usually caused by the bushes for the anti-roll bar drop links to the front struts being in need of replacement, but this is not too difficult a job.

On models with power steering, check for whining noises on full lock, which would indicate a tired power steering pump.

Brakes:

No problems in general, but check for judder on GTi's which would suggest warped front discs.  The rear calipers on GTi's are prone to seizure, if this is happening it will be obvious from the state of the rear discs themselves. Be careful when ordering replacement parts, as a number of different manufacturers of brake components were used.

Electrics:

The airflow meter on injection models can cause problems, it is a flap-type potentiometer and the tracks can wear and the flap can stick, this can lead to hesitant pickup, incorrect fuelling and a rough idle.  Distributor wear on the GTi can lead to a lumpy (or should that be lumpier?) idle or even stalling and cold starting can be a problem. On models with central locking, check that it works on all the doors (and the hatch). 

Check that the extra lights fitted to the front valance of GTi's (2 fogs and 2 spots) are working, as they are expensive to replace and the contacts tend to rust away due to exposure to the elements.

The heater control illumination lights in the dashboard are difficult to replace as a lot of the dashboard has to be removed first, so this can prove to be an expensive little job.

Cooling System:

Check that the thermostatic fan comes on when the temperature goes up, and that the heater works efficiently.

Wheels & Tyres:

Check the tyres for uneven wear and signs of tracking problems.  The alloys on the GTi are prone to damage from "kerbing" if the wrong sort of tyres are fitted; the proper tyres have a ridge on the sidewall which helps to stop this from happening.


Prices

The Peugeot 309 is now reaching bargain basement level, with sound, early cars being available for just a few hundred pounds. Decent 1989/90 GTI's go for between £1,500 and £3,000, and the popular diesels will fetch up to £3,500 for a 1993 model.

Best Buys

Five door models are better buys, offering greater practicality than the three door models, for a premium of only around £50. The 1.6 injection cars (pre catalyst) offer the best all round package, with surprisingly good performance, good economy and low insurance grouping. Post facelift models (Oct 1989 on) are worth a bit more as the build quality was much improved.  Diesels hold their value better than the petrol models, so, even though you have to pay a bit more for a low-spec diesel, than you would for a fully loaded GTI of equivalent age & mileage, you won't lose out when it comes to selling it on. The GTI's will achieve classic status in the years to come, so don't be afraid of buying a decent one to keep for a long while.

Avoid

1.1 models are a bit gutless and generally less economical than the 1.3, in fact, moving up a step the 1.6 is hardly any thirstier than the 1.3.  The XE and GE spec models are almost worthless.  Beige (Panama Beige to give it it's full title) used to be a popular colour - it isn't any more however, and some of the "Limited Editions" are distinctly tacky. Don't buy a diesel without a full history.

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